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Topic: Shout or whisper

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Numenorean soldier - Rank 3
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Date: Aug 22, 2009
Shout or whisper

This may seem a trivial matter to bring up, but Ive been thinking about it a bit.

In the books as Gandalf hangs on to the ledge of the bridge by the eye of his teeth he shouts (according to me): "Fly you fools!"

But in the movie he whispers the words.

What do you all think. Which is the best interpretation of the scene?

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Loremaster Elf of Mirkwood - Rank 4
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The book, being Tolkien's own creation will have to stand at the correct version. in the book he had already slipped and was falling when he cried out. Now doubt, the movie version was to add suspence, I suppose.

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Rohirrim of Edoras - Rank 4
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I think also there is the added interpretation is a personal thing factor to involve here. Sometimes a shout goes unheaded and a whisper echoes through time. What do you think would have been more impacting at the time? Visually the whisper from a doomed wizard is very powerful in the face of doom. In the book and as a mental picture Gandalf's voice echoing back from a bottomless ravine in a sharp command to flee is pretty powerful, too. I like them both and can't decide.

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Numenorean soldier - Rank 3
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I guess the close up and the whispering of the words does make an impact. But in the books when he falls and shouts, I feel that it is more genuin. A man about to plummet to his death does not whisper.

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Rohirrim of Edoras - Rank 4
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I've ridden many rollercoasters and on every big hill I am sure I'm plummeting to my death. I have yet to be able to scream until I hit bottom. I figure by then it's too late. lol

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Lord Elrond of Rivendell - Rank 9
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All,
I guess one must ask who was Gandalf shouting or whispering too.
If he was shouting "Fly you fools!" part of my reasoning would go to his telling the company a few paragraphs earlier that this was a foe beyond them and that they were supposed to keep moving. As he fell and saw they weren't moving I think shouting "Fly you fools!" is the perfect fit.
If he was talking to himself, or reasoning that he was doomed, seeing the rest of the Fellowship staring in horror at his fall, whispering aloud to himself "Fly you fools!" makes more sense.

So who was he talking to?


-- Edited by Bear on Monday 24th of August 2009 05:53:40 AM

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